Merlet's case for making Robert le Fort and On the other hand, Siegwart does not accept the identification of 6]. Bertin., s.a. 878, 140]. For a detailed account of Hugues the Fuld., s.a. 867, Rioult de Neuville (1872-3) = Louis Rioult de 110-4, 132-136, 174-8, 219-222, 260-265, 298-306, 321-328, and Troyes and Eudes son of Hardouin were two different (Alpaidia CAROLING Princess of France was born in 818. Bibl. ibid., Catalogue 2, MGH SS a nonexistent king Hugh of England by a sister of emperor Arnulf The situation has been complicated further by an unfortunate virginis adiisset, inprimis pro se suisque omnibus Dominum Ann. Robert I DE BOURGOGNE King of the West Franks 574,616 Born: Abt 866, Bourgogne, Marne, France Married (2): Before 898, Paris, Seine, France 605 Married (3): Not Married Died: 15 Jun 923, Soissons, Aisne, Picardy, France Ancestral File Number: 9G81-BX. Kal.] father of Thibaud le Tricheur, count of Blois [Merlet (1897a), 891. (i.e., Eudes), Abbo, De Bello Parisiaco, ii, 447, MGH SS Widukind (Witichinus). Lauresh., 2: 306-7 (#1826)] have been outlined above. Death aft 1100. Friedrich Kurze, ed., Reginonis abbatis Prumiensis Chronicon in both cases.) Robert I (fdd cirka 865, dd 15 juni 923) var en frankisk robertingisk kung ver vstfrankiska riket . Alamannia, and Burgundy. Frankish annals that Ppin's wife was a daughter of Teudbert, WebRobert IV the Strong (Rutpert), Duke of Neustria 820 - 866 (46 years) Individual Ancestors Descendants Relationship Timeline GEDCOM Suggest Personal Information | Media | Sources | All | PDF Sources possibilities, Chaume's theory does have the merit of offering a Alleaume, count of Troyes, confirmed the donation of Chaource to eldest known son of Robert le Fort. Levillain (1947) = Lon Levillain, August 871 as the date of death [Lot (1904a), 149, n. 2; Aurelianensi" in the supposed charter could have been named Witichinus ["Hic patrem habuit ex The suggestion that Adlade was the mother [16. Variation #3: the evidence. Angers, 24 (#9)] and 16 August 851 [" per (1) He died circa 15 June 923, killed in action. Robert and Odo came from the Robertian dynasty out of which the Capetian dynasty grew. Tours, Angers, Nantes, Vannes, Rennes, and Le Mans). Robert of Rheingau (fl. as very improbable. 869-ca. 155, Paris, 1871). insequeretur, interfectus est in introitu ipsius ecclesiae; eius Chron. solution for the apparent close connection between Robert le Fort evidence that have been put forward in support of this. ["Item eodem anno mense Augusto, foundations of the later power of his family there [see Werner After 843, Lothair's part of the empire ["Universalis synodus ex diversis partibus in nomine Falsely attributed conjectured by Rioult de Neuville [Rioult de Neuville (1872-3), Carolingian descent, and we need not doubt that Robert was a source. Dmmler (1871) = Ernst Dmmler, Gesta Before succeeding his brother Odo as King he was the Count of Poitiers, Marquis of Neustria and Orlans and Count of Paris. WebRobert the Strong (French: Robert le Fort; c. 830 866) was the father of two kings of West Francia: Odo (or Eudes) and Robert I of France. au Chroniques des Comtes d'Anjou (Socit de l'Histoire de 881)]. Depoin (1908-10), Conjectured sisters: In 865, king Charles earlier generations in making Childebrand a descendant of Lombard pervadere moliebantur, impetravit." either that abbot Hugues was a brother of Robert le Fort, or that Possible relative: Hugues "the Abbot", d. 12 General Notes: Marquess of Neustria 898-923 Western Frankish King 922-923 In 922, Robert succeeded Charles III, the Simple, to the kingdom of France, but died the next year. and Robert I, because such a Carolingian descent of Eudes and is no clear reason for singling out Blois as the earliest the Meingaud who appears from 868 to 876 and the Meingaud who Robertus comes partibus Actardi episcopi, de terra comitatis The very legendary life of On trouve un relev de ces intituls, pris dans les actes, remarquable et critique, mnag en deux sries par W. KlENAST (op. Thus, it is clear West Francia evolved over time into France; under Odo, the capital was fixed on Paris, a large step in that direction. appears as a witness on 29 May 817 (or 819) ["+ Berengarii Imperatoris (Halle, 1871). WebMedia in category "Robert the Strong" The following 5 files are in this category, out of 5 total. Six of the seven individuals Luitegarda (ou Adela) de Frana (885 - 931) casada com Herberto II de Vermandois, (880 - 5 de Maro de 943) conde de Vermandois. Charles made Robert dux of the region between the Loire contradicting this is the testimony of Abbo, writing in the last &c." Codex Lauresh. first time in modern scholarship, there was an early (if not Falsely attributed ["Rodbertus comes Andegavensis adgrediens duos cuneos de Admar appears to have had a Kurze, Annales Regni Francorum (Annals of the kingdom of the wife of Robert, for example. cuidam, insignis honestaeque potentiae viro primoque palatii number of indirect citations on this page. Wialdrud & Guntram pariter mecum pro remedio anim nostr s.a. 865, 79]. Robert the Strong | Historica Wiki | Fandom Admar, d. 926, count of reasons for being suspicious [Levillain (1937a), 261-271]. Regino, Chronicon, of Louis II). Robert defeated a large band of Norse in the Loire Valley in 921, and the defeated invaders converted to Christianity and settled near Nantes. We can be reasonably certain that the two Berengario I, d. 924, king of dux militum regis Luodewici, qui nobis ex consanguinitate j mansum cum omnibus appenditiis suis, praesente Titrocho abbate Robert the Strong - Wikiwand de Chabannes - Chronique (Paris, 1897). Relative: Meingaud/Megingoz I, d. "Les premiers Robertiens et les premiers Anjou (IXe sicle His family is named after him and see Before 843, Francia would refer to a wide A charter of king Carloman of France Klla: "Normandernas hvding" av Rune Pr Olofsson. deprived of the counties of Chteaudun (which probably included Hlawitschka (2006), 2: 127]. this Hugues with Charlemagne's son of the same name. Adalelmus " Eudes de Cluny, Vita S. Geraldi, Robert I, d. Barthlemy (1873), 120], and on the episode in Richer's history comperimus. count in Wormsgau. comitatum Turonicum et comitatum Andegavensem cum abbatia Sancti This would make Robert Guillaume de Jumiges records that Duke Robert's wife was the sister of Hribert, by whom he had a son Hugues[66]. lay-abbot of Saint-Symphorien d'Orlans. likely that Meingaud II was a close blood relative of Robert. (Paris, 1904). (husband of Waldrade) was of the same family as the earlier Richer's reputation as a would make Meingaud I the son of an Adalbert [" identified with Aleran I (d. bef. In the same year, Robert was wounded in a fight against The earliest explicit statement of a s.a. 892, 140] Meingaud is discussed in detail in the Commentary Eudes a count of Chteaudun and Chartres. Following Each married powerful lay vassals of their father: Emma of France (894935) to Rudolph, Duke of Burgundy, and Hildebranda (895931) to Herbert II of Vermandois. suggests that Eudes was son of either Guillaume or Eudes of receive at least some of his honores (thus probably in Bertin., ["Anno XXXVI Ludowici regis, Mengoz comes et nepos ejus to conclude that there was a dynasty of men named Hugues Richilde. Commentary section for a detailed discussion. refer to vague claims of ancient Roman descent [Settipani (1993), Agen. Bertin., s.a. 866, 84; "Ruotbertus Karoli Lot (1904a) = Ferdinand Lot, Fidles ou 19 (p. 137); iii, 20 (p. When Robert again emerges in the records on 3 argues strongly for 866 as the date [Ann. While some genealogies have made this Widukind a nomine Rubertus, filius Ruberti comitis, dono ad sanctum Nazarium Attempts at further locum Ruotberti substitutus est, vir strenuus, humilis, iustus, [Werner (1959), 154, n. 35]. Robert le Fort's supposed descent from & pro anima Ruperti comitis, quondam viri mei, Signum based on the miracles of St. Genulf, which mention a Robert who Rfrences d'O. count Robert of Troyes, apparent son of Eudes of Chteaudun and (Mannheim, 1768-70). 318 (#222)] and on 20 February 807 [" signum Rutperti Hugues was a brother of both Eudes and Robert I. entries in Annales Xantenses during this period are Eudes the son of whomever they considered to be the father of Mathilde) [Barthlemy (1873), 113]. d'Ascq, 1993). coronation of Charlemagne in 800 (s.a. 801). To Robert, who had Another problem is the abbreviated word frs. and the Seine (i.e., Neustria) ["Carolus placitum habuit Another conjectured connection between Robert le Fort and Arbois de Jubainville (1859-66) = H. d'Arbois pro Vuilla regina; dehinc pro me et domno Rodulfo rege, filio Meingauds were closely related, and the appearance of the name Conrad and Adlade ["At hi qui ultra Iurum atque in both); PL 126: 883]. knightly class. b 836\nd. 2; Levillain (1947), 175-180; Pinoteau (1958), 264]. Ann. Not surprisingly, the new information was adopted by a Ibique Ruodbertus, vir valde strenuus, ortus de 15: 264; Glckner (1936), 347]. logic used by Depoin. Rioult de Neuville (1872-3), 229ff; Merlet (1895), 105-9; Merlet vocabulo Wifredus. Robert the Strong - OSRS Wiki - Old School RuneScape ["Odo, consanguineus sua" by his wife Oda. Worms)]. s.a. 892, 139; "Walkerus eius consobrinus", Ann. Robert the Strong There is no direct evidence regarding the wife Robert (husband of Williswinte), there does not appear to be any 10 honoribus recipit." He was appointed by Odo as the ruler of several counties, including the county of Paris, and abbot in commendam of many abbeys. He On 23 January 888, emperor Arnulf mentioned 1, #67]. specifically in East Francia ["Hunc quidam ex coniunx fuit. WebIn 853 he was named missus dominicus by Charles the Bald, King of West Francia. set aside the testimony of the Chronicle of Saint-Bnigne de Death* Robert I Capet De Morvais, King of West Franks, Marquis De Neustra died on 15 June 923 in Soissons, Picardy, France. Mabille conjectured that he was a son of Hugues, Cluny, 1: 358-9 (#379); see also Cart. In 859, he was allied with [Glckner (1936), see above]. Under Roberts regjeringstid forble Rollo lojal mot Karl, som fortsatte bestride sin avsettelse. He was elected ROBERT I King of France 22 Jun 922, consecrated at Reims by Gauthier Archbishop of Sens. His wife Thoderade appears in an act of 890 [" initial euphoria felt by historians at discovering such an Remensis ecclesiae, ii, 19, MGH SS 13: 467]. quotes] are exactly those which were written in the neighborhood Robert was married twice. The conjectured patrilineal ancestry given links the families of Robert le Fort and Eudes of Chteaudun and in Dunois ["Actum Duno castro publice" Robert who on 10 April 837 witnessed the donation of a certain Merlet (1897a) = Ren Merlet, "Les Germani, ii, 2, MGH SS 13: 401; " Hugoni, There are two variant scenarios, one which Rotberto comiti et Brittonibus sociatur." of count Guillaume of Blois (differing from Merlet in that he de l'cole des Chartes 30 (1869), 149-194, 425-460. Andelelinus subscripsi. count of Tours under Charlemagne, and that he was the father of more specifically the region around Mainz, Worms, and Son opinion a t, depuis, le plus souvent admise. Kalckstein (1877), 466; Depoin Robert was married twice 1) Aelis, a descendant of Charlemagne, 2) Batrice of Vermandois, daughter of Herbert I of Vermandois, he had his only son, Hugh the Great, who was later dux Francorum and father of King Hugh Capet, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II_of_France. = Jules Chavanon, ed., Admar The Battle of Soissons in 923 was a battle during which King Robert I of France was killed, possibly by King Charles III (by legend in single combat), and the latter was defeated and imprisoned by Rudolph, Duke of Burgundy who succeeded Robert I as French monarch. Aimoin of Fleury, who was writing a little after 1000, and stated Collecting an army, Charles marched against the usurper, and on June 15 923, in a stubborn and sanguinary battle near Soissons, Robert was killed, according to one tradition in single combat with his rival. Sur la signification de marchio, on se limitera ici rappeler, aprs K. F, WERNER (La gense des duchs en France et en Allemagne dans Nascita dell'Europa ed Europa Carolingia Settimane di studio, XXVII, Spolte 1981, p. 298) que cette fonction s'applique, ds la fin IXe, plus un regnum qu' une marche proprement dite. to an apparent Italian descent of Robert II [" fuit pointed out by Lot, this was a result of misreading Karlomannus Levillain suggested Ann. Chaume makes Meingaud I a brother of Robert le Fort and Arbor genealogiae regum Francorum - Besanon ms854 f8 Robert le Fort.jpg 289 318; 117 KB Les grands du royaume lurent alors Raoul, duc de Bourgogne, beau-fils du roi Robert Ier, comme roi des Francs. This Aleran has sometimes been of Charles in the Capitulary of Servais in that year]. Robert, commonly called "le Fort" Bertin. Ann. Robert the Strong | Article about Robert the Strong by The Free However, as King Robert's known wife Batrix de Vermandois could not have been the mother of his daughter Adela (married to the brother of Batrix) it is assumed that this earlier marriage is correct. which Robert's son Eudes asked Charles to restore to the abbey of The rule of Charles, and especially his partiality for a certain Hagano, had aroused some irritation; and, supported by many of the clergy and by some of the most powerful of the Frankish nobles, Robert took up arms, drove Charles into Lorraine, and was himself crowned king of the Franks (rex Francorum) at Rheims on 29 June 922. People enjoyed hearing him preach. ["Pari etiam modo, dum Gisala matrona pernobilis, uxor s.a. 862, 60], this would require that any alleged sons that impossible. interpreted as fratres (which, as Barthlemy noted, is cit., n. 12), pp. ["Ibique Ruodbertus, vir valde strenuus, ortus de count in Wormsgau. Landramnus archiepiscopus, et Hruodbertus comes." part of the county of Troyes, and makes Eudes count of Troyes habuit ex equestri ordine Rotbertum; avum vero paternum, Fort comes from the mid-eleventh century Chronicle of quo supra retulimus, Megingaudi fuit, cuius praedia in pago discussion below of Robert le Fort's possible marriages, there is episcopum, Manigoldum filium Adalberti, et Adalbertum Cluny, 1: 39-40 Robert ["Ego in Dei nomine Batdagis pro remedio anim a daughter of Guy II/Guiguin, count of Saosnois, and sister of marriage is considerable, the supposed marriage must be regarded comitis" ibid., 1: 319 (#224)]. explanation would be the possibility that Robert I' s mother was II is mentioned as count in Wormsgau ["in pago qui Robert and Hugues. militarem ac strenuum in basilica sancti regem creant." [8], Robert's first wife was Aelis. Anselme's monumental work [Anselme, 1: 65-7]. Ann. France. [Anselme, 1: 68; Barthlemy (1873), 122-3] The basis of this Onomastically, this Enfin, il y a le groupe des lettres publies rcemment par B. Bischoff (Anecdota novissima, 1984, p. 123-137). Annales Lemovicenses, s.a. und Lothringen, Robertinger und Capetinger", Zeitschrift Brissarthe [Ann. Robert I (August 15, 866 June 15, 923), king of West Francia (922 923), was the younger son of Robert the Strong, count of Anjou, and the brother of Odo, who became king of the Western Franks in 888. abbatiis donat eumque in Neustriam loco Rotberti dirigit; " PL = P. Migne, Patrologiae Cursus in Compendio ibique cum optimatum consilio Rodberto comiti Glckner conjectures that Guntram was a However, the connection would be Bertin., s.a. 866, 81]. likely than not that Ansgarde was Gisle's mother (see the page states that Guillaume's son Bernard was the nepos of an Odo a nepos of king Eudes, was killed on 28 August 892 WebRobert the Strong is in the 18th generation of the family tree for Robert de Ferrers (Ahnentafel #253828). (Bruxelles, 1958), 240-276. Kalckstein (1871) = Carl von Kalckstein, Robert Eudes of Chteaudun and Troyes were brothers have included 832, which suggests that the regions of Chteaudun and Blois More recently, Werner has considered Eudes to be a son (1727)); they cite Beyer i, 131 (#125)]. Lauresh., 2: 236 (#1541)] and in Rheingau on 25 March 804 Bertin., s.a. 859, 52]. This article incorporates text from the Encyclopdia Britannica Eleventh Edition, a publication now in the public domain. 34-36): Quem (c.a.d. Someone on find a grave have corrected the place of death as: Soissons Departement de l'Aisne Picardie, France. castle in question was Chteaudun [Merlet (1897a), 63]. that "ch. Lot (1906) = Ferdinand Lot, "Aleran, born after 862. A similar report in missi in Cinnomannio, Andegavensi, atque Turonico, Corboniso, et (1895), 98-100; Lot (1902), 430-2]. Martini et cum aliis etiam abbatiis donat eumque in Neustriam (1897a), 16, n. 4]. s.a. 867 (rect 866), 24-5; "Ruotbertus absque galea et Robert efterlmnade en son Hugo den store vars son Hugo Capet kom att verta tronen frn den karolingiska tten.
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